Hull boundary debate ‘not dead’

Published: Wednesday 6th May 2015 by The News Editor

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A former council leader is calling for a review of Hull’s boundaries after the General Election.

Councillor Colin Inglis says the debate over where the city limits should fall is not dead, despite last year’s referendum of surrounding villagers which found the vast majority – 96% – are against leaving the East Riding.

He believes the city and outlying areas, such as Cottingham, Kirk Ella and Hessle, should be seen as one economic unit.

While the argument has been put on hold in recent months, current Hull City Council leader Steve Brady has appointed a commission to look at the boundary issue. It is expected to report in the coming days.

Cllr Inglis describes Hull as a “Labour bastion” and the East Riding is a “Tory enclave”.

He claims the border is in a “silly” place and expects council officials to make a strong case for new city limits, adding there would be no need for a vote or the agreement of village residents on the matter.

His comments came at a meeting of business leaders at the Hull and Humber Chamber of Commerce.

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Published: Wednesday 6th May 2015 by The News Editor

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  • Well the discussion on Kingston-upon-Hull Cities boundaries continues, and whilst it does we are all missing out on many of the government handouts and grants that we would be entitled to if our size was to increase.
    How many of those in the villages voted against extending our boundaries yet they are quite content to earn their living in the city.
    They want the best of both worlds, they want to work here taking jobs from local people but then go back to their individual places of residence without taking the slightest interest in those who need financial stability.
    Kingston-upon-Hull would be a better and much more financially stable place if it received its true allowance as other cities do.
    Extending our boundaries could help to achieve just that.
    Kingston-upon-Hull contributes a great deal the the economy of the UK with its exports, manufacturing and many other production businesses, we have a world beating University and so many important developements have come from our city and it’s research and developement structure.
    We get forgotten with things like HS2, the tolls on the Humber Bridge would be removed if it went directly to London, and for certain we would not have to work so hard for so little if we could show that we are bigger and therefore more important.
    Our population numbers would show a marked increase, our area would be far more substantial and we would have a greater number of people to call upon to help govern our local areas.
    Do those who voted against the boundary extention not realise that some of those East Riding councillors would be just as much a part of the new bigger area, and also of course it would mean that resources in the greater area are used more efficiently too.

    • Sam

      Ah yes, hand-outs, a fantastic reason to expend the boundaries and how very pioneering fro Hull.
      The logic is also flawed; if the villagers are all working in Hull and going back to the place you want to extend the boundaries to it doesn’t change the economics, so how would the people of Hull be financially stable if they did move them. No change then, so not a reason to do it.

      It would also not improve services as we voted no because we have better services now. How would more people with an area improve governance, answer just look at the political boundary no change there either.

      This all of course has nothing to do with trying to gain the council taxes of West Ella and Swanland does it? Typically labour driven policy created a social housing city and then to be crippled by deprivation to such a point that they need to leech others..

      Leave us alone.

      • I am sorry but I don’t know why you seem to be so aggressive
        with your comments.

        You clearly wrote your reply without giving any thought to how I worded my comments, and why I mentioned extending the boundaries for the better.

        I for example did not mention any single village or town by
        name, and I certainly did not for one moment assume that Hull would make any gain via council taxes either.
        (Quite frankly I don’t believe that to be the case at all)

        Of course the economics of Hull would change if the area was to grow; it would mean that Kingston-upon-Hull being a larger area would stand a better chance to qualify for greater government funding. (Not only
        would the area grow but also the populace too)

        Because Hull would receive greater funding that too would mean that any other local associated areas would get a share too, since Hull
        city council would be involved with their infrastructure and the welfare of its people.

        Please be assured that Hull would not Leech as you put it, since Hull city have greater resources than probably all of the villages on the boundaries of Hull put together.

        Give a thought to this, even though some people are against extending
        boundaries, Hull city council and other councils often work together for their mutual benefit even before any changes are be made.

        Hull is not crippled by deprivation as you put it, because it has become more popular and with growth in people numbers housing is seeing greater demand.

        Just to remind you, it was a government policy some years ago to force local governments to demolish many of their housing stocks, at that time I was involved with some of the discussion on that subject.

        I said then that it was folly to do such a thing, and only a few years later
        we are seeing the devastating result of such a ridiculous demand.

        • Sam

          Perhaps I am, probably tired of listening to this ill considered rhetoric, however, let us review.

          You have made clear statements that we who live outside the boundaries are job stealers, who want the best of both worlds, deprive the local folk in Hull and that Hull people are not financially stable because of it, and we do not care. Your style is not Socratic in nature or tone and to promote otherwise is not becoming. You chose your words carefully do not disavow them.

          Moving the boundary doesn’t change the circumstances of the local area as apparently we already have the jobs, just Hull city council doesn’t have the council tax does it? However, the local business rates are welcomed as are the skills and our spending, the only missing element is council tax. Which contributes nothing to why the council want to move the boundaries, or continually promotes the idea does it? Interestingly this pattern is the same as immigration, you’re not against immigration too are you, as a socialist this might be a problem?

          You claim great housing demand yet the 20 year high is only 10,000 additional people. Why has 20 years of outrageous popularity netted so few?

          Ings road is being flattened as are swathes of orchard park and other areas, flats are toppled. A housing crisis is in Hull, no doubt, as so many are desperate to flee to private housing, just see the success of Kingswood and others of their ilk. Why? As Hull is one big deprived council estate.

          If Hull is so swollen with resources why does it need to expand the boundaries to already built areas? It can’t be for expansion can it and surely not for council tax gains as it knows that wealth and millionaires live just beyond the boarders, but us poor folks are in the way of their ambition?

          Not crippled? Name a healthy city that has won city of culture? It is a badge of deprivation, a last hope of defibrillation for a dying city that the country will not spare a farthing for. Liverpool, Glasgow, Derry and Hull are all synonymous with success prior to the event are they not?

          The council have the hand out they wanted as city of culture. You can choose to enjoy it all on your own just as Hull, but you can’t can you? The idea is just like the villages that should be annexed is you want people to visit, spend and leave. Now that is a dilemma don’t you think, with a touch of hypocrisy?

          • What the hell are you talking about Sam, it would not be so bad if you could understand what you have written, but I won’t hold you to explain any more, since I do not wish you to stretch yourself unduly.
            I am sure that the words I have imparted by most will be clearly understood, but I am sure that people will not hold me responsible for those who don’t have an ability to work out common sense argument and logical improvement from factual statements.

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